Tuesday, November 12, 2013

Never Challenge RYM Moderators: They Could Be A Vindictive Administrator Some Day


Subtitled: My Life on RYM: The Unconventional Version
Not a site-prohibited call-out by name...Just a compilation of each and every public release correction I've submitted - plus two bonus tête-à-têtes from the forums & queues  - - -

Background:
As far back as November 2006, anyone with the ability to read English could quickly discern the fact some (not all) RYM staffers do not like to be challenged, questioned or faced with unconventional situations. Fast-forward seven years, and not much of anything has changed. If (or when) certain egos are bruised, all bets are off. Following the site's guidelines to the best of your ability means nothing. Cleaning up incorrect releases and adding missing data or images carries as much weight as thimbleful of air.

Case in Point:
I don't think it's clear enough in the wiki because JohnBuckWLD didn't follow this

And unrelated but he absolutely NEVERS (sic) responds to the comments I make on his corrections, I don't think he should have auto-approval. (and I only see the ones he makes that affects my collection, nevermind what kind of mess he might be making on others).

Before I point out the sheer inanity of that statement, feel free to read it one more time, Go right ahead, I'll wait...

In order to make such bold accusations in public (or private), one should have the evidence to back it up. Not only what (imagined and non-existent) "mess I might be making," but on the initial charge of 'NEVER responding to the comments RYM's newest administrator claims to have made. It's quite easy to back up such slander by simply going through the accused member's correction history, tweaking the url to group the page sizes into more searchable groups (like so) and find/read each and every comment and reply.

The Numbers: Other than one friendly reminder to add an overlooked format (which was quickly addressed [even after it was previously approved without said format), most every comment was replied to (as seen below):
  • 14,889 Release Corrections
  • 14,600+ Self-Approval Corrections Since May 2006
  • 13 Corrections Commented on by 'Ignored' Administrator: 0.088%
  • 2 Unanswered Comments: Both prior to RYM notification system
So there are the hard numbers. "Mess," my ass. "Nevers resonds," you're a bold-faced liar. The only instances in which a notification prompted reply was not forthcoming was  when either a correction outside of the site's standards was re-edited / fixed -or- when incorrect edicts against wiki language were handed down.

The Moral of the Story:
Don't challenge staff moderators or administrators on RYM. As a rule, dissent leads to bruised egos, which lead to removal of site correction approvals. If you want to get along on RYM, remember the often posted reminder that RYM is not a democracy. Don't question incorrect and fabricated edicts handed down from on high, and accept tyranny when necessary. Be especially leery of any staff member whose vocabulary usually lacks the terms "please" or "in my opinion". Absolute power? Absolutely.

Conclusion:
I haven't a clue how long this RYM list will exist on the site before someone with the capability goes and deletes it. Such an act, if or when carried out, would be the epitome of pettiness and the denial of each and every lame & groundless edict handed down from on high. Irregardless, a hastily pasted facsimile of this list resides on blogger anyway

  

 



Over-Nite Sensation

The Mothers

Over-Nite Sensation (1973)

Edict of October 29, 2013
Unless you plan to change the mothers profile to all their incarnations, this correction is wrong.

Translation: Set up different Mothers artist pages -- or file albums under the band's leader, even if the band leader is not credited on the album.

See also the fact an approved profile for Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band was erased without any public discussion with releases converted into a "collaboration" between the frontman and a revival band formed in 2003.

Birds of Fire

 

 

Mahavishnu Orchestra

Birds of Fire (1973)

Edict of October 20, 2013
Multiple credits should be on the same line (John McLaughlin)

Translation: Lump everything together, one row per artist on all release-wide credits because I (not the wiki) said so.

Bob Dylan

 

 

Bob Dylan

Bob Dylan (1962)

Edict of October 11, 2013
Isn't it writer?

Translation: Bob Dylan isn't a songwriter, I say he writes songs.

Fabric 61

 

 

Visionquest

Fabric 61 (2011) [DJ Mix]

Edict #1 of March 27, 2012
John it was decided that for VAs with featurings the standard be

Artist - Track (feat.)

You can ask synapsistapped to confirm you this, this was decided on and should be in the wiki.

Track 16 is not a featuring it's a blend of both tracks on the same track number.

Translation: Break up 2 collaboraive artist links, and stick one of them @ the end of the song title. Even though no one's updated the wiki, enter artist links in the order I want them, irregardless of the fact the release credits show them the way you input them. [But I wouldn't know that, because my digital copy came via a torrent site]

Fabric 61

 

 

Visionquest

Fabric 61 (2011) [DJ Mix]

Edict #2 of March 27, 2012
As for the standard vs comp, well the entire series is classfied as comps (and so are thousands of the other DJ mixes) so can't see why you argue so much to be it in standard albums and refer to super outdated wiki rule.

But I can start a poll and settle this matter once and for all, tired of going back and forth with this and RYM 3.0 is not coming anytime soon.

Translation: I say you must disregard the wiki language that for years said "It is current RYM policy to treat DJ mixes as Standard releases rather than Compilations, to reflect the idea that the DJ is making a new work of art." I have decided that DJ mixes are compilations, don't want to update the wiki and will play pied piper in a forum poll to overturn site policy post fact.

Bombshell Baby of Bombay: Bombay Conection Vol. 2 - Bouncin' Nightclub Grooves From Bollywood Films 1959-1972

 

 

Various Artists

Bombshell Baby of Bombay: Bombay Conection Vol. 2 - Bouncin' Nightclub Grooves From Bollywood Films 1959-1972 (2006) [Compilation]

Edict of March 16, 2012
It doesn't have to say featuring to use featuring... These are obviously credited featured vocalists.

Should just be like:

R.D. Burman - Mera Naam Hai Shabnam (feat. Asha Bhosle)

I wouldn't put the soundtrack in the track title, that seems to be more additional information and not really part of the track title.

Translation: Irregardless of what's published on a release, for Bollywood Various Artist releases in which the tracklist includes the composer, performer, song title and film title, make the composer the artist, the performer a featured artist and omit the film title. Opera's Greatest Drinking Songs is not a valid precedent, regardless of what admins said about composed pieces

The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld

 

 

The Orb

The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld (1991)

Edict of November 16, 2011
Doesn't seem to be IMCD 234.

Translation: Don't add the Union Jack to that release, even though your source clearly shows it as such. Ooops, never mind, what I meant was wrong primaries should remain as skeleton entries, so people add more duplicate releases to the database

A Life in Music: Best of the EMI Years

 

 

Ananda Shankar

A Life in Music: Best of the EMI Years (2006) [Compilation]

Edict of October 22, 2011
See numbering tracks, option 1.

Translation: I like option #1, use track headers for muti-disc releases. Do not number tracks as 1.1, 1.2...2.1, 2.2... because I am lobbying [but eventually failed] to have that published wiki standard removed

Box of Dub: Dubstep and Future Dub

 

 

Various Artists

Box of Dub: Dubstep and Future Dub (2007) [Compilation]

Edict of March 3, 2011
This is wrong. As per standard for tracklistings (and confirmed with admins), featurings on VA releases should be listed after the track names.

Are you going to correct it back?

I'd point you to the thread but it's in the wiki editor forum. Here's the post...

Translation: Do as I say, not as I do...Even if what I say completely overrules the earlier administrative precedents you cited and hasn't made it into the wiki yet

Rid of Me

 

 

PJ Harvey

Rid of Me (1993)

Edict of May 3, 2010
You can't have both Europe and UK (flags).

Translation: Follow the geographic map of the earth and ignore the rights society instructions listed in the Places Issued wiki

Pol Pot's Pleasure Penthouse

 

 

The Brian Jonestown Massacre

Pol Pot's Pleasure Penthouse [Bootleg / Unauthorized]

Edict of February 5, 2010
A 1991 digital file?

Truly ahead of its time.

Translation: Even though the original submitter added the release date, as part of your cited correction, you should have thought to erase it.

Ironman

 

 

Ghostface Killah

Ironman (1996)

Edict of October 21, 2009
John, featurings that are in the booklet under the track names are accepted. They are not credits. They are featurings.

Translation: Disregard the wiki standards and add feat. links to a tracklisting for artists listed in the credits section of the booklet, even if their names are not part of the tracklisting or written on the disc itself

Speakerboxxx / The Love Below

 

 

OutKast

Speakerboxxx / The Love Below (2003)

Edict of December 12, 2008
This is stupid. There's probably 10 other flags that belong on this cat#.

Translation: When I take a wild guess on the quantity of flags that should be affixed to a release, when that estimate reaches a quantity of 10, it shall be deemed a worldwide release - irregardless of the other 170+ nations presently occupying the planet.

Blues Breakers With Eric Clapton

 

 

John Mayall

Blues Breakers With Eric Clapton (1988)

Edict of February 4, 2008
CD's didn't exist in 1982 in the US...

Translation: Ignore your source and the fact CDs existed in 1982.

The Pearls

Jelly Roll Morton

Edict of November 9 2013
Jelly Roll's page is enough, no need for X million pages. You are trying to create new standards that have not been set, so before these things are acceptable, please don't start them

Translation: Disregard any and all releases credited to an ensemble or band when a frontman's name is part of the credited artist name. In all cases, treat artist type 'groups' as individual 'persons', with use of a text override of the credited name, even though releases can be displayed on both pages with use of file under.

Oh, and I don't like my authority challenged, so I'm taking away your release approvals

The Bends

 

 

Radiohead

The Bends (1995)

Edict of April 28 2009
John you're so quick to criticize moderators work and I have to say that's annoying especially since you refused to become one yourself.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:kifwxq8hld0e

yeah April 4th for America.

But if we go by what you are proposing then we'd have at least 3 issues for all albums since they are released in germany on fridays, UK (monday), and US (tuesday). And that's not counting all other countries that might have their own days to release stuff.
I think the fact that it has the same cat# and was released around the same time doesn't really necessitate a separate issue.

Translation: Don't directly criticize me, even though I made up another standard and the OP's link included my name in the sole example. If you do, I will incorrectly point out you refused to become a moderator

Speaking

Bertrand Russell

Correlation does not imply causation:
The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history.

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